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On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 8:26:57 PM UTC-4, JWS wrote:
> On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 6:26:24 PM UTC-5, Ron Dean wrote:
> > JWS wrote:
> > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 10:47:01 AM UTC-5, Ron Dean wrote:
> > >> JWS wrote:
> > >>> On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:59:28 AM UTC-5, Andrew wrote:
> > >>>> "Ron Dean" wrote in message news:JhIRM.42768$
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> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Something rarely seen on evolution sites, and virtually
unknown to the
> > >>>>> general public is the fact that DNA has its own detect
(called Proofreading) and
> > >>>>> self repair mechanisms that detect and repair virtually
all mutations. A few
> > >>>>> defective mutatins seen in genetic diseases and
handicapped individuals. But after 200,000
> > >>>>> years Aon mans esistence, no doubt the DNAs proofreading
and repair protein
> > >>>>> machines have undergone change due to increasing entropy.
There are 4 known DNA
> > >>>>> repair systems.
> > >>>> It there any logic in saying that evolution created these proof
> > >>>> reading repair systems that prevent evolution from happening?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> No, only a fool would think such a foolish thing!
> > >>>>> Deliberate purposeful design is the most logical and rational
> > >>>>> explanation as to the origin of DNA self proofreading and self
> > >>>>> repair mechanisms.
> > >>>> That is the ONLY logical and rational
> > >>>> explanation. Did you hear that folks?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The ~ONLY POSSIBLE~explanation.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Case settled for those looking for the
> > >>>> truth.
> > >>> The repair mechanisms for DNA come into play
> > >>> during replication. Many mistakes are caught and
> > >>> corrected, but not all. An error rate of one nucleotide
> > >>> in 10**7 is common. This has allowed sufficient
> > >>> mutations to occur for natural selection to work with.
> > >>> So whatever is doing this "deliberate purposeful
> > >>> design" is not good enough to catch all of the
> > >>> copy errors, is he/she/it?
> > >>>
> > >> You believe that mutations can be beneficial or detrimental.
> > >> So, since the modern human race dates back 200,000 years, can
> > >> you claim that the DNA has not undergone a decline in the 200k
> > >> years of modern mans existence? It certainly has due to the 2/ND
> > >> law and increasing entropy.
> > >
> > > I do not know how you measure "decline".
> > >
> > The number of mutations continuously increase
> > constantly over time.
> > >
> > > I know that our genetics have changed during the
> > > past 200,000 years. We have lost functions and
> > > structure that we no longer need. Our body structure
> > > has changed to improve the ability to walk upright.
> > > We have lost much of our body hair, we are taller, we
> > > have more dexterity in our hands, but have lost it in
> > > our feet. Our tails are recessive. We have larger brains
> > > (which increased to a maximum in the past but have
> > > decreased in favor of a more efficient design currently).
> > > I think you will agree that our facial features have
> > > become more attractive (but that, of course, is in the
> > > eye of the beholder). We now have the biggest "T"s and
> > > the finest "A"s. All of these changes are easily seen in
> > > our genetics.
> > > Entropy does not factor into human populations. People
> > > eat and drink to gain energy from our environment.
> > >
> > Of course, you are right about our bodies, however, our
> > DNA is constantly being bombarded by UV rays, cigaretteFurth
> > > The 2nd law applies to CLOSED systems only.
> > >
> > This is a common mistake. The 2/nd law can and does apply
> > to open systems. You can see it in the world around you.
> > A house that is deserted, over time falls into ruin. A tree
> > while alive receives energy from our sun, grows and remains
> > alive. But it dies then rot and decay sets in and in time it`s dust.
> > This is increasing entropy eventhough the dead tree still
> > receives solar energy. It`s lost information in death to use
> > this energy.
> > The problem is the second law was expressed in terms of a
> > steam engine by an engine engineer named, Carnot whose
> > interest was power. I`m an engineer MsEE.
> > So, I can assure you that the 2/nd law can affect open systems.
> > Further evidence:
https://www.studocu.com/en-us/document/university-of-delaware/chemical-engineeri
ng-thermodynamics/second-law-applied-to-closed-and-open-systems/42839370
> In rules 5 and 6 it is admitted that the insertion of
> energy will counter the effects of entropy. That`s
> all I`m saying.
But you`re "saying" it without providing any confirmation of its veracity.
You`re under the false impression that you can say anything you want
and anybody and everybody has to believe you. That`s not how it works.
That`s the same thing as a lie. By not showing any proof, you become a liar.
And that`s why I don`t believe a word you say.
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