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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 5 Jun 2023 12:57:45 +0100, Ed Cryer
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ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>micky wrote:
>> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 4 Jun 2023 11:03:03 +0100, Ed Cryer
>> <
ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> micky wrote:
>>>> This is not really a problem, but I think you`ll find it interesting.
>>>>
>>>> Using win10 fully updated. I`ve never seen win11 but I`m thinking the
>>>> two have similarities:
>>>>
>>>> I also use the software that makes Win10 look like Win7 or 8. I`ve used
>>>> this for years and on this computer, ever since I first loaded win10, 2
>>>> years ago. I`m not good at learning something new so this made my life
>>>> easier.
>>>>
>>>> In addition to English, I have the Hebrew alphabet installed. I even
>>>> enabled the alt-shift shortcut for changing keyboards, and sometimes my
>>>> fingers slip and I change the keyboard by accident, though not for many
>>>> months afaicr. It`s easy to change back.
>>>>
>>>> Two or 3 weeks ago I noticed that when I type the Windows key, the big
>>>> blue box that shows up in the corner is partly in Hebrew!! My Hebrew
>>>> is not good but I can read it enough to know the Hebrew entries mean
>>>> what the English entries would have said.
>>>>
>>>> The first six items remain in English. Windows-user-name, Documents,
>>>> Pictures, Music, Recent Items, This PC.
>>>>
>>>> But Control Panel and Settings are in Hebrew!! Small and hard to read
>>>> and in Hebrew characters: Luach Habekara and Hagadrot Machshav!
>>>>
>>>> Devices and Printers, and Default Programs are in English.
>>>>
>>>> and the next two lines, Help and Support, and Run, are in Hebrew. Ezra
>>>> v`tamicha, and hapoala.
>>>>
>>>> And the box is in the left bottom corner but the columns are in reverse
>>>> order, Hebrew order, right to left instead of left to right.
>>>>
>>>> The submenu for Control Panel is entirely in English, but the columns
>>>> are in reverse order!
>>>>
>>>> And I`ve restarted Windows but it didn`t undo this.
>>>>
>>>> I`ve never had Hebrew windows, and the Hebrew keyboard just changes what
>>>> each key means, not menu items. It doesn`t even know words, only
>>>> letters.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How did this happen? Anyone else see it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I can`t say how it happened but I know what I`d do in your situation.
>>>
>>> Completely uninstall all Hebrew settings; everything related to them.
>>> Maybe a final Windows search for "Hebrew" thereafter wouldn`t go amiss.
>>>
>>> When things have returned to normal, you can re-install as you wish.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>
>> Thanks, Ed and Paul. If I learn more I`ll post back. I thought this
>> example of, I presume, unintended consequences would interest you.
>
>You`re going to have to be very selective with a Windows search of your
>files.
>I teach various languages online and have all kinds of language packages
>installed, including Greek, Cyrillic and Hebrew keyboards and software.
>And I just ran an experimental Search that threw up tons of hits; mostly
>text documents associated with their owners.
>
>I`ve never seen my Windows swap to other scripts the way yours has. And,
>believe me, I`ve tinkered like a gardener in a potting shed. Great fun!
>
>I suspect something at your end has tinkered with the Windows overall
>language settings.
>Look in Settings, Time and Language.
>
>Ed
I coudln`t filnd anything in Settings.
There were 5 incons at the top of Language:
Windows, Apps, Regional, Keyboard, and Speech
All said English (United States)
Windows display language has a drop down menu, but the only entry is
English (united states)
And Preferred languages has two entries.
English has 5 little icons, that are not explained**, and
Hebrew is listed next with one icon and "language pack available".
**Only one of the 5 icons looks like any of the icons for the 5 at the
top, the microphone (speech). the other 4 little icons are A for
alpahbet, an envelope, a rectangle with a pencil over it, and abc with a
check mark.
Meanwhile, I hadn`t not iced before that the Windows blue box has at the
bottom, where All Programs, Shut Down, and up to 6 subitems for Shut
Down are, everything is in Hebrew!
My guess is that it`s not windows, but that add-on that makes win10 look
like win7 (whose name I can`t remember and didn`t find**). To do that,
it probably has to bring along some text, and to only have one version,
maybe all languages are included. I`ve used that on two other computers
too, ever since wiln10 first came out, including another one I`m using
right now, and I think I`ve had Hebrwew most of that time, and it`s
never dragged in Hebrew before!!
**Called Classic Shell, unless that was the name of the first one.
Okay, googling "classic shell menu in hebrew" I got "the main classic
shell packaage includes translations in 35 languages, for things like
toolbar labels, the Explorer UI and the start menu items. So I should
look at Explorer! If that means File Explorer, everything is in
English! When I mistakenly entered Windows Explorer, I got a message in
Hebrew. When I put in Internet Explorer, I got File Explorer.
There appears to be a very broad array of Classic Start Menu settings,
14 tabs`s worth, but I don`t know how to get there.
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