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On 08/09/2023 16:46, Big Al wrote:
> On 9/8/23 08:18, this is what Henry Crun wrote:
>> On 08/09/2023 14:15, bad sector wrote:
>>> On 9/8/23 00:54, azigni wrote:
>>>> On 9/6/23 18:04, bad sector wrote:
>>>>> They have this SNAP system, ...snipped
>>>>>
>>>> You do not have use Ubuntu any flavor with Snap or Flatpaks.
This is Linux after all. Google removing snap packages
>>>> from Ubuntu, it is pretty simple.
>>>
>>> I think it was a mozilla package that went snap by default,
true there WAS an alternative way and I tried it once,
>>> but I don`t have time to muck around with workarounds so the
bundled default software manager has to do it my way by
>>> default or optionally. Finally the problem isn`t snap per-se. I
have no axes to grind about flatpacks (well, maybe a
>>> tomahawk or two) but the charateristic that it sabotages home
links is a deal braker. It`s not a federal case, I
>>> still use the U-Studio but its a black mark until fixed.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I am gradually moving laptop...netbook...eventully desktop from Ub. to MX.
>> Very smooth learning curve, some advantages, some disadvantages.
>> On Ubuntu I have been running for about year with no snap or
flatpak. If only I could avoid the horror that is systemd.
>> We are supposed to have choice, but to choose `no systemd`
immediately implies `not Ubuntu`
>> Pity `bout that.
>>
> Can you explain the issue with systemd? I think Linux Mint
uses it and I haven`t seen any apparent issues.
My first and main objection is aesthetic. Now I know that is a
non-definable, highly personal quantity. It might be
beautifully coded in it`s internal working, but the overall efect is
one of an all-invading. all-encopmassing entity.
Put it succintly. it breaks the tenet "Do one thing, and do it well."
Systemd defintely does not "Do one thing". As for "do it well",
it`s difficult to see through the maze of linked
scripts, binary logs and what have you.
As the man said to the judge "I`m a simple man, yer `oner" And I
have simple, linear thought processes, and I find the
flow of systemd - as I might have mentioned - unaesthetic. It was
supposed to be a replacement for init, a modest,
well-defined proposition. It has got *WAY* out of hand.
I guess I`m just another grumpy old man.
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