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On 2023-09-28 05:02, AlleyCat wrote:>
> Busy day... hardly time to write, so there WILL be redundancy and
mistakes.> But, the main focus is YOUR inability to research what YOU write.
>
> You stop when you`ve found what you THINK is the only article EVER
written,> that makes what UNUM said, a lie. I was quoting Unum, quoting
the NY Times,> which DOES have the updated figures and data on the
mileage of the EVa.
>
> Conclusion: you failed once again to refute me, as usual.Normally, I
just snip you`re raving, but today I`ll leave it intact for contrast:
"`Joby Completes Flight of More Than 150 Miles with Electric Vertical
Take-Off Air Taxi`
>
154.6 miles to be exact."
That`s me showing you were full of shit... ...again...
...in this message:
6@dont-email.me>>
>
> =====
>
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:57:22 -0700, Alan says...
>
>>
>> On 2023-09-26 21:06, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 21:57:57 -0500, Unum says...
>
> Sept. 25, 2023:
> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/25/business/air-force-joby-electric-air-
> taxi.html
>
> See the date? Your source has none, but articles listed at the bottom
OF your> sourced site, does, and shows the mileage update. Read on,
idiot.My source has a date:
"JUL 27, 2021"
Right at the top of the article.
>
>>> Sooooo... EVERY destination has to be less than about 90 miles,
since NO ONE>>> wants to see how close to that 100 mile barrier they can
get... riiiight?>>
>> Where does the article say that 100 miles is the absolute maximum?
>
> (right there, mother fucker... LOL... you`ll see)
>
> In Unum`s source, or in yours?
>
> LOL... you couldn`t read the NYTimes article because of the paywall,
so you> decided to use your own source!! What a fucking putz.What does
it matter?
`JUL 27, 2021
Joby Completes Flight of More Than 150 Miles with Electric Vertical
Take-Off Air Taxi`
>
>
> BUT!... I`m so glad you did, because it gave ME the opportunity to
show how> lazy and unwilling you are to find out the truth, the WHOLE
truth, and noting> BUT the truth.
>
> I`m sure you scoured the Internet JUST to try to make me look like a
liar, when> I was simply replying to what UNUM wrote/quoted.
>
> LOOK at the date of the article.
>
> Sept. 25, 2023:
> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/25/business/air-force-joby-electric-air-
> taxi.html
>
> Sept. 25, 2023:
> "Joby, which is based in Santa Cruz, Calif., said that its electric
aircraft is> substantially quieter than helicopters or planes. Each can
carry one pilot and> four passengers and travel as fast as 200 miles per
hour AND AS FAR AS 100> MILES, ACCORDING TO THE COMPANY."
>
> What`s the date on yours? "Unknown"`JUL 27, 2021
Joby Completes Flight of More Than 150 Miles with Electric Vertical
Take-Off Air Taxi`
>
>
> https://www.futureflight.aero/aircraft-program/joby-evtol#
>
> https://i.imgur.com/TTWI4kP.png
>
> Annnnd, they didn`t list the mileage until the very last paragraph.
No date> means that have probably updated the mileage for the EVa.
>
> Outdated:
>> `Capable of reaching a speed of 200 mph, it will have a range of 150
>> miles on a single charge.`
>
> That`s from YOUR source, which has no date, so we can NOT be sure if
those> numbers are current. We CAN from Unum`s source.That`s from one
article I posted...quite deliberately, because I knew you`d do precisely
what you`re doing!
`JUL 27, 2021
Joby Completes Flight of More Than 150 Miles with Electric Vertical
Take-Off Air Taxi`
>
>> <https://www.futureflight.aero/aircraft-program/joby-evtol#>
>
> NOT the source that was used by Unum, you numbskull. Did you not SEE
this...>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/25/business/air-force-joby-electric-air-
> taxi.html
>
> ... you fucking idiot, or are you soooooo fucking obsessed with
trying to make> yourself look sooooo smart, you FAIL to read what *I`M*
replying to?
>
> If you would have bothered to research a little further on YOUR
source, you`d> have seen subsequent articles listed at the bottom of the
page which DO have> dates, AND a mileage "update", meaning the mileage
estimate figures were
> probably updated in the model.`JUL 27, 2021
Joby Completes Flight of More Than 150 Miles with Electric Vertical
Take-Off Air Taxi`
>
That wasn`t a model, it wasn`t an estimate.
it was an actual flight.
> You fucking MORON:
>
> I found this: why couldn`t YOU have? Oh yeah... so obsessed with
being a nerdy> little tattletale prick, you stopped researching after
you found OUTDATED
> data, which makes you a liar.
>
> RANGE LIMIT REBOOT, BUT NO MISSION CHANGE
>
> "Joby`s all-electric air taxi, which has room for four passengers
plus one> pilot, is DESIGNED TO FLY ON TRIPS OF UP TO 100 MILES while
producing zero> emissions, and at speeds of up to 200 mph. The company
will not only mass-> produce the aircraft, but it also intends to
operate them for commercial air> taxi services in cities."`JUL 27, 2021
Joby Completes Flight of More Than 150 Miles with Electric Vertical
Take-Off Air Taxi`
>
> You lazy fuck.
>
>
https://www.futureflight.aero/news-article/2023-09-15/jobys-first-evtol-air->
taxi-factory-coming-dayton-ohio
>
> https://i.imgur.com/bCbFVGz.png
>
> https://i.imgur.com/ln0yZjF.png
>
> From UNUM`S source:
>
> "Joby, which is based in Santa Cruz, Calif., said that its electric
aircraft is> substantially quieter than helicopters or planes. Each can
carry one pilot and> four passengers and travel as fast as 200 miles per
hour and as far as 100> miles, according to the company.""can carry ...
passenges ... 100 miles"
That`s OPERATIONAL range which means it requires a reserve...
...which the Joby HAS: 50 miles.
As Joby states:
`With a range of up to 100 miles plus energy reserves and a top speed of
200 mph, the Joby aircraft is capable of transporting a pilot and four
passengers quickly and quietly with zero operating emissions.`
>
> (turns out I was right... read on)
>
> I have a sneaking suspicion, since YOUR article is not dated and couldn`t
> POSSIBLY be any newer than Unum`s article, that they`ve put the
numbers BACK> through their models and "adjusted" the max miles, so...
you lose again.`JUL 27, 2021
Joby Completes Flight of More Than 150 Miles with Electric Vertical
Take-Off Air Taxi`
>
>
> I wrote that BEFORE finding updated sources from the website YOU sourced.
>
>> Wait... ...I know! You`re going to complain about two words: "will
>> have". Let me help you out:
>
> Yes, WILL have. That`s the rub... (see next paragraph)
>
>> `Joby Completes Flight of More Than 150 Miles with Electric Vertical
>> Take-Off Air Taxi`
>
> (giggle... turns out, that is COMPLETELY wrong using OUTDATED data)It
was an actual flight on July 21, 2021.
`The flight was completed at Joby`s Electric Flight Base in Big Sur, CA
earlier this month as part of the company`s ongoing flight test
campaign. The aircraft, piloted from the ground by Joby`s Chief Test
Pilot, Justin Paines, took off vertically before transitioning to
forward flight and completing 11 laps of a predefined circuit. After
more than 1 hour and 17 minutes in the air, the aircraft landed
vertically, having covered a total distance of 154.6 statute miles. `
>
> If they haven`t flown it yet, moron, then it`s THEORETICAL mileage.
They use> MODELS to calculate distance, so when they actually DO fly the
EVa, they will> get REAL world data(which is ALWAYS different... your
mileage may vary???),> seeing how the wind will probably be blowing, the
barometric pressure might be> higher or lower than what they used in
their models. Also rain, humidity...> etc.
>It wasn`t a model. It was an actual flight.
>>
>>
> (I know I`m being redundant, but I wrote much of this before I researched
> further, and found out your numbers were hogwash)
>
> Not the same article as what I derived MY statement from, you stupid
fuck.> Unum`s article is current... yours is not, but if you would have
opened that> fucking closed and obsessed mind of yours, you would have
seen the articles at> the bottom of your sourced website, and seen
UPDATED versions.Your article was talking about OPERATIONAL range, Pussey?
You think that when Boeing states that a 777-200LR can carry 317
passengers 8,555 nmi that they mean it will drop out of the sky if it
tries to fly 8,556?
>
> I find it VERY flattering, that you take time out of your busy
schedule, you> know... sending telepathic messages to your Russian
Sports Officials and all,> but, if you`re going to refute what I write,
do it with the same source, else> you`re simply being disingenuous,
therefore, lying.Says the guy raging and ranting...
>
> Look here...
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/25/business/air-force-joby-electric-air-
> taxi.html
>
> Look there...
>
>
https://www.futureflight.aero/news-article/2023-09-15/jobys-first-evtol-air->
taxi-factory-coming-dayton-ohio
>
> (10th paragraph down)
>
>> 154.6 miles to be exact.
>
> LOL... he said "exact". THAT`S from a model, you tick-turd. WHY can`t you
> moronic liberals stop believing MODELS, when they`re programmed by
men and> women with agendas and figures to lie about when trying to sell
their
> products??No. It is NOT from a model. It is from an actual aircraft.
>
> Also, that mileage has been updated in subsequent articles from the
website YOU> sourced.
>
> Found at the bottom of your OUTDATED website:
>
>
https://www.futureflight.aero/news-article/2023-09-15/jobys-first-evtol-air->
taxi-factory-coming-dayton-ohio
>
> https://i.imgur.com/bCbFVGz.png
> https://i.imgur.com/ln0yZjF.pngThat`s operational range.
>
> =====
>
> THIS is the source Unum used, which DOES have the updated data.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/25/business/air-force-joby-electric-air-
> taxi.html
>
> "Joby, which is based in Santa Cruz, Calif., said that its electric
aircraft is> substantially quieter than helicopters or planes. Each can
carry one pilot and> four passengers and travel as fast as 200 miles per
hour and as far as 100> miles, according to the company."Operational range.
>
>>> Go back to talking about the weather, uNumbnuts. It`s a little
harder to make>>> you look stupid talking about the weather, than it is
talking about future EVA>>> crashes, which WILL happen, and set
EVaircraft back a decade.
>>
>> So IC engine aircraft never crash, do they?
>
> Whataboutism and non-Sequitur Noted: Thank You.>
>>> If YOU want to trust your life to a battery-operated flying
vehicle... go>>> ahead... just send us video of your experiences.
>>
>> IC engine aircraft never run out of fuel in flight, do they?
>
> Non-Sequitur Noted: Thank You.
What were you expressing except your idiotic belief that a battery
running out of power is somehow different than an IC engine running out
of fuel?
>
>>> Why not hydrogen-power? I think anyone who can make a turbine run
on hydrogen,>>> has got it made.
>>
>> 1. Turbines are very high maintenance whereas electric motors are not.
>
> Thanks for the info already known by millions, if not billions.
Non-Sequitur> Noted: Thank You.
>
>> 2. What is the energy density of hydrogen... ...including the storage
>> vessel?
>
> Non-Sequitur Noted: Thank You.Sorry, but:
1. "non sequitur" is not hyphenated.
2. It most certainly DOES follow to examine how much actual weight one
must get aloft if an aircraft wants to use a particular fuel.
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