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On 2023-09-29 17:07, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> [Subject changed. Newsgroups snecked.]
>
> Carlos E. R. <
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2023-09-28 01:20, Wally J wrote:
>>> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote
>>>
>>>> I update all my computers. Phones no, I can`t.
>>>
>>> Carlos,
>>> Is your phone at least Android 10?
>>>
>>> If so, the Android operating system was updated yesterday (most likely).
>>> *And today too.*
>>
>> No, it wasn`t.
>>
>>> And your Android operating system will (most likely) be updated tomorrow.
>>> And the day after that.
>>
>> No, it won`t.
>>
>>> *Forever.*
>>>
>>> If you don`t believe me, read any link showing up in this search.
>>>
<
https://duckduckgo.com/?va=n&hps=1&q=what+is+android+project+mainline+treble>
>>
>> No, because our updates come from Samsung, Motorola, etc, not Project
>> Mainline.
>
> Well, you might get updates from Project Mainline, but it`s probably
> not automatic and surely not "yesterday"/"today"/"tomorrow"/"the day
> after that"/"*Forever.*" as `Arlen` claims.
>
> Because he keeps harping his nonsensical claims about this, I did some
> searches and found - amongst others - this article:
>
> `Android Project Mainline: Everything you need to know` (Dec 13, 2022)
now/>
>
> That says:
>
> "The user receives a Google Play System Update (GPSU) message when a
> Mainline module updates."
>
> And you indeed get such messages, but normally only at the end of a
> `Software update` from your *manufacturer* (*not* Google). At least
> that`s when I`ve seen such messages for my Samsung phone (now Android
> 13).
>
> For example the (About phone ->) `Software information` of my phone
> says:
>
> "Android version
> 13
>
> Google Play system update
> January 1, 2023
> ...
> Security software version
> ...
> SMR Jun-2023 Release 1
>
> Android security patch level
> June 1, 2023"
>
> So, despite what `Arlen` claims, I have no `Google Play system update`
> newer than January 1, 2023.
Bout phone, Android version
Android version: 12
Android security update: 20230901
Google Play system update: 20230701
Basband version: HA11...Rhode...
Kernel version: 4.19.157-perf+
#1 Mon Aug 28 05:.... CDR 2023
Compilation number
Thinkshield for mobiles 12.01.00
>
> However, the article also says:
>
> "Where to check for this system update on your phone?
>
> We all enjoy using the knowledge we have gained. So, grab your phone
> and lets see how this system upgrade performs in your phone.
>
> Navigate to Settings > Security > Google Play system update.
20230701
after:
20230801
and
Android version: 12
Android security update: 20230901
Google Play system update: 20230801 *
Basband version: HA11...Rhode...
Kernel version: 4.19.157-perf+
#1 Mon Aug 28 05:.... CDR 2023
Compilation number
Thinkshield for mobiles 12.01.00
That`s not an Android update.
> ...
> There you can see the latest available update. Just click on download
> and install. Within seconds, the latest update from Google will be
> downloaded and installed. With this feature, you can improve the
> devices stability easily and quickly."
>
> And lo and behold, when I do that - via a somewhat different
> navigation path (Security and privacy -> Updates ->) -, I see under
> "Google Play system update" that there is an update! (Marked with a `!`)
>
> I did the download, the phone said it had to restart and after the
> restart, that screen says:
>
> "Google Play system update
> August 1, 2023"
>
> So I now indeed have a `Google Play system update` from *Google*,
> which is *newer* (August 1, 2023) than my `Software update` from
> *Samsung* (June 1, 2023).
>
> The question is: Why didn`t I get notified of this `Google Play system
> update`?
>
> Perhaps this is because I haven`t enabled any automatic downloading
> or/and updating, not in the Play Store and not in (Samsung) `Software
> update`. But I *do* get notifications for (Samsung) `Software update`s,
> so why not for `Google Play system update`s?
>
> Maybe it`s a setting in the Play Store app, but if it is, `Arlen``s
> story is even more doubtful, because he always claims he steers well
> from the Play Store (or anything Google).
>
> So it would be interesting to hear from others, if they get any
> `Google Play system update`s outside the software update cycle of
> their manufacturer and if so, how they get notified of these updates.
>
> N.B. Of course we`re mostly interested in responses from users of
> non-Pixel phones.
>
> Carlos, can you try this on your phone and see if there is a `hidden`
> `Google Play system update`, like there was on mine (or that it says
> that it`s up to date (`V`))?
It said reboot to apply update, which I did. It only updated the Google
Play System Update, whatever that is.
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Carlos E.R.
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