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On 2023-09-30 05:36, RabidPedagog wrote:
> On 2023-09-29 10:10 p.m., Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-09-29 18:04, RabidPedagog wrote:
>>> On 2023-09-29 7:19 p.m., sms wrote:
>>>> On 9/29/2023 1:44 PM, RabidPedagog wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I believe it, myself. The obsession with making things thinner was
>>>>> going to going significant problems for cooling no matter what they
>>>>> did. Still, my iPhone 13 never gets warm and my MacBook Air M1
>>>>> never gets warmer than 33c (I checked).
>>>>
>>>> They`ll probably need to follow Samsung`s lead and use vapor chamber
>>>> cooling.
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>>>>
>>>> For Snapdragon SOCs and Samsung SOCs there is really no choice, they
>>>> generate too much heat to use just heat pipes because the 5G modem
>>>> is integrated.
>>>>
>>>> For the Bionic chips, Apple was able to avoid the expense and the
>>>> space needed by vapor chamber cooling because the modem is a
>>>> separate device but the Bionic chips are getting more complex,
>>>> adding more transistors and increasing the amount of heat generated.
>>>>
>>>> Eventually, Apple will integrate their own 5G modem into the Bionic
>>>> and then they`ll likely be forced to use vapor chamber cooling but
>>>> that likely won`t happen until the iPhone 19 or 20 depending on how
>>>> the modem development goes. They`ll likely first go with a separate
>>>> modem chip in the 17 and 18 before integrating it into the Bionic.
>>>>
>>>> Initially, Kuo believed that the iPhone 14 Pro would use vapor
>>>> chamber cooling but it did not. The issue with vapor chamber cooling
>>>> is that it could add maybe 0.2-0.3mm to the thickness of the phone.
>>>> The 15 Pro actually went down in thickness by 0.1mm. OTOH, Would any
>>>> user would be upset about a fraction of a mm increase in thickness?
>>>
>>> I love Apple`s newer devices but there is no denying that style has a
>>> lot to do with the product they`re selling (despite the fact that the
>>> MacBook Air 15 is butt ugly). As such, the extra fraction of a mm in
>>> thickness would likely bother the people who don`t know a thing about
>>> the internals, but want their device to be the bee`s knees in terms
>>> of looks. It`s the price Apple to pay for insisting on attracting
>>> both computer users and idiots who only buy technology to be noticed.
>>>
>>
>> Style matters in consumer products.
>>
>> This is not news.
>>
>> But smaller and lighter are also useful in and of themselves.
>
> How does the iPhone 15 being thinner than a similarly-powered Android
> give it any kind of additional utility?
>
It fits more easily in a pocket.
It`s lighter and therefore less fatiguing to hold.
But let`s turn it around:
Why not make that "similarly-powered Android" phone twice as thick?
Still all good?
How about about three times... ...five times?
Do you see where I`m going?
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