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От : Ardith Hinton 1:153/716 26 окт 24 16:24:28
К : Alexander Koryagin 26 окт 24 02:37:03
Тема : Strange a bit
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Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:
AK> Usually in English e, i, y tell us about specific pronunciation
AK> of the syllable behind. For instance, "bit"/"bite", "kit"/"kite".
The final "e" tells us how to pronounce the "i" in your
examples... during medieval times, however, both letters may have been spoken
aloud.
AK> However in astrology
Or numerology, methinks.... :-)
AK> every letter is important and they say can change the person`s
AK> destiny. ;)
Uh-huh. In English, you can spell a family name "Smythe" &
require others to pronounce it "Smith". Years ago I knew somebody who did
that. And names like "Brown" & "Clark" may be spelled with or without a
final "e". The spelling of one`s name may or may not influence the
audience`s reaction. :-Q
AH> Pronunciations in English often vary from one time & place to
AH> another... and I don`t know where this name originated. But
AH> IMHO it`s most likely the pronunciation changed & we never got
AH> around to changing the spelling. I`m told that`s what happened
AH> with e.g. "gnash" and "knife".... :-)
AK> It would be interesting for me to learn who threw "k" first and
AK> why others started follow him. ;-)
I don`t know who did it or when... the OED might tell us more
about that... but for native speakers of English, the initial consonants
are rather difficult to pronounce without adding a vowel when one
follows immediately on the other. I`m reminded here of the Danish King
"Canute" (as I was taught to spell his name). During the 11th century he
was king of England. But he was king of Denmark & Norway too... and
many historians nowadays spell it "Cnut". While that may be more
authentic from their POV I don`t speak Danish.... :-)
AH> I get the impression the upper classes in Russia preferred
AH> French (which may have worked for them when they didn`t want
AH> the servants to get the drift) until they became disenchanted
AH> with Napoleon, then carefully reconstructed what`s now your
AH> native language. The net result from my POV is that it`s a
AH> lot younger than my native language & doesn`t include
AH> complications like "silent letters"....
AK> Yes, the French got a great impact on the Russian language,
AK> but Russians did not accept those crazy silent letters. So
AK> Bordeaux in Russia is just Bordo, and nobody suffers from it.
To my ears, however, the second "o" is elongated. If your
language makes no such distinction I understand. I have to keep reminding
myself that e.g. the word "venue" is pronounced differently in English &
French.... :-))
AK> in the USA they simplified English they could do the same. What
AK> a lot of ink they could save! ;)
When the USA was established there were alternative spellings for
a large number of words. They tended to choose the shorter & simpler
ones, but this theory doesn`t necessarily work as advertised in practice...
[wry grin].
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