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От : Gleb Hlebov 2:5023/24.4222 24 дек 24 16:51:20
К : Alexander Koryagin 24 дек 24 16:01:02
Тема : Wall
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Hi Alexander,
Mon 23 Dec 2024 at 08:24, you wrote to me:
AK>>> Just look in the Longman dictionary - it says bluntly -
AK>>> wall is a countable noun.
GH>> Here we go again. "Pie" or "Cake" are countable nouns as well,
GH>> but we`re also free to say
GH>> "I want Cherry Pie", or,
GH>> "For Gods` sake, how can you not love Cake?"
AK> Well, let`s treat "wall" as "cake". Although, if we again look into
AK> Longman dictionary we`ll see that it says bluntly that pie /pa╔к/ noun
AK> [uncountable and countable] ;)
Do you own a paper copy? I can`t open the website at the moment.
Again, as you may surmise, using articles is tricky. It`s kind of
a "fuzzy" subject for those with different language backgrounds. I
believe even French and Deutsch have some differences in this regard with
English, let alone Russian (or even some more "exotic" ones).
I`d say that you rely too much on dictionaries and try to
over-formalise your approach to language learning, while in real life, in fiction,
newspapers/magazines, talk shows etc., it may at times look a bit different.
In our case I`d say it`s an "object vs. substance" thing.
Here are some instances from a website I find suitable:
"Brick" as substance/material:
"Drilling into brick is a key DIY skill, needed for all kinds of home
improvement projects." ...
"You`ll require a masonry drill bit for drilling into brick." ...
"If you`re drilling into a softer brick and don`t need to
make too deep a hole, you may..." -- wait... it`s no longer the same
substance here, neither a flaw in the brickwork but a "different
kind of brick material".
"Hold your drill straight and level when drilling into brick(1) - some
drills come with spirit levels built-in. Starting slowly, drill into
the brick(2), pushing the drill towards the wall." -- okay, (1) is a
"brick as generalised material"; (2) is the "stuff" that you`re now
interacting with physically.
I hope it makes sense (no big deal if it doesn`t though).
AK> The Great Chinese wall is "wall" or "a wall" if I approach to it?
It can only be referred to as THE Wall, given its singular and
unique nature (the same as the Moon, the Earth`s only natural satellite).
No other options here. :-)
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