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От : Gerrit Kuehn 2:240/12 31 май 25 20:37:54
К : Michiel van der Vlist 31 май 25 22:30:02
Тема : FidoNews submission
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Hello Michiel!
31 May 25 14:45, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:
MvdV> Now FOIP is the rule rather than te exception. So why the
MvdV> reluctance to embrace IPv6? Contrary to ISDN, it doenn`t have to
MvdV> cost anything in most cases. Complexity? Oh c`mon, ISDN was far
MvdV> more complex to install than IPv6.
ISDN offered benefits: higher bandwidth (i.e., lower transfer costs),
channel bundling, using your voice phone while data transmission is running,
just to name a few.
IPv6 offers nothing for most sysops apart from time to spend on
understanding it, making it work, keeping it running.
GK>> I think the question is not so much about the technical support (for
GK>> Linux or *BSD, IPv6 is available since around 2000). I know a couple
GK>> of admins who -even if their provider supports IPv6- simply disable
GK>> it on all machines due to the unnecessary complexity it comes with.
MvdV> Than these admins have not understood or they are just lazy.
"lazy" is the wrong word here. Not everyone is a retired person in
a single household. Having a job, running a family, maintaining a
house, vehicles and other things the familiy needs consumes lots of time
already. When there is not much time left in the first place, why bother
with IPv6?
MvdV> Yes, a
MvdV> dusl stack system is moe complex than a single stack IPv4 system.
MvdV> But IPv6 by itself is not more complex than IPv4. On the contrary I
MvdV> would say. IPv6 is less complex.
I beg to differ: I spent the better part of a weekend
understanding just the parts I need to get everything running with my DSlite
connection (mainly DHCP, DNS, routing). It *is* more complex than IPv4 in many
places, running IPv4 and IPv6 together needs even more thinking, firewalling
and other security aspects come on top.
I am thinking about disabling it again on my internal (in-house)
network. It provides no benefit.
MvdV> But it is different, there is a
MvdV> learning cuve and one has to "unlearn" some of the "IPv4 think".
MvdV> But once past that, it is relatively easy. And unavoidable in the
MvdV> long run anyway...
I do not see any device or OS being sold as "IPv6 only" in the
medium-term future. There are way to many installations that require IPv4
compatibility. There is no market for an "IPv6 only" device or software.
Regards,
Gerrit
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