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От : Eugene Subbotin 2:5075/35 19 сен 26 09:35:06
К : Karel Kral 19 сен 26 10:02:01
Тема : Re: UTF vs specific
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Hello Karel!
Saturday September 19 2026 08:29, you wrote to me:
ES>> CP895 messages then read correctly and what you write goes out as
ES>> CP852 with a proper CHRS kludge. Writing CP895 from a UTF-8
ES>> session is not possible with a table now (I`ll add
ES>> reverse-encoding later): a CHS
KK> Then I will wait for it. I thought conversion between 1 byte and "more
KK> than one byte" encoding is that big move in new Golded+ approach.
Reverse encoding was added in the latest release
ES>> If an area REALLY has to stay CP895, run an 8-bit session
ES>> instead:
KK> As I have now. In regio42 areas I can use encoding. In International
KK> keep 7bit virtual ASCII. And forget about UTF8.
ES>> But PLEASE do not post CP895 messages to Fidonet!
KK> This I can not agree. It is about moderators of each echomail
KK> conference and its rules. For r42 is only alowed CP895 (since ever). I
KK> did some investigation since my rc42 and will not change.
ES>> Neither the Fidonet standard FTS-5003 nor IANA recognizes this
KK> Checking that FTS - 7.4.2012 - far after CodePage was stabilized in
KK> r42. FTS should not be accepted in that shape, that time.
But it does.
ES>> encoding. Nobody else has a table for it - iconv, Windows and
ES>> OS/2 do not know the charset - so every other reader, GoldED+
ES>> without tables included, shows a CP895 message as rubbish,
ES>> exactly what you saw.
KK> I am using that code page since ever (in fidonet). See proper and use
KK> characters. I wondered if new Golded+ can help me to live with OS in
KK> UTF - which can not so far.
KK> What must be done: 1) add CP895 into iconv and 2) get Golded+ working
KK> with 1byte against UTF and back conversion
No one will ever add this encoding to iconv or the Windows
distribution: it┤s used too rarely.
Reversible encoding should work, so this encoding can be used with
a conversion table.
KK> It reminded me situation I was supporting big International (ok,
KK> German) company starting to sell ecom in .cz They simply refused czech
KK> coding, using pure English... Until Czech Post (they contracted)
KK> simply refused to deliver ;-) We can say that CP895 is not alllowed in
KK> Fidonet since 2012 - but is used in r42 since ever and until now - on
KK> all (active) Nodes and Points.
It`s clear. Why didn┤t they switch to the standardized CP850?
Eugene
... It`s full of stars!
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