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От : Dan Clough 1:135/115 11 окт 25 10:01:40
К : Michiel van der Vlist 11 окт 25 18:17:01
Тема : Re: IP only nodes with ICM flag
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-=> Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Dan Clough <=-
DC>> Firing people and *trying* to replace them may fix everything.
MvV>> That`s the wrong order. Replacements have to be found before
MvV>> firing the ones in position.
DC> No, they don`t. You lose nothing by firing non-existant people. Fire
DC> them and then offer the job to someone.
MvV> That does not work in Fidonet where jobs are linked to a chalm in a
MvV> technical chain. Removing a region entry or replacing it with a
MvV> non-functional dummy will break the nodelist.
It`s already broken. What would removing non-existant nodes/nets hurt?
They`re already not reachable. Rather than break the nodelist, this
would bring it closer to being correct/accurate. Isn`t that the goal?
MvV>> Fixing the problem of a disfunctional RC is obviously the job of
MvV>> the ZC.
DC> Yup, as I said. But he does nothing, as usual.
MvV> That you do not see it does not mean it is not there.
Well, how long has this RC been disfunctional? Seems like it`s been
quite a long time to me. What corrective actions has the ZC taken that
I can`t see?
DC> Perhaps he`s the one that needs to be fired.
MvV> Firing the ZC does not solve the problem of a non functional RC.
It might, if the replacement ZC fired the non functional RC and replaced
him.
MvV>> I was just pointing out the hurdles in this particular
MvV>> situation. Maybe the ZC could place the region in custody. For
MvV>> starters he could remove the nets that are obviously dead. (4614
MvV>> and 4624)
DC> Sure, except for the fact that the ZC doesn`t do his job.
MvV> Ever heard of silent diplomacy?
Sure, it`s another one of those non-functional idealogical fantasies
that doesn`t actually work. It also takes forever, and in the end
nothing changes, it just takes..... forever to know it.
MvV>> And move Moldova (net 469) out of region 46. It is not enirely
MvV>> dead. The host is gone but 469/122 is still on-line. He could be
MvV>> moved to Region 56. (Z2 catch all)
DC> Sure, except..... well, you know.
MvV> No, I do not know.
See above regarding "the fact that the ZC doesn`t do his job".
DC> I am just pointing out that there are TWO problems here - a
DC> non-existant RC, and an (effectively) non-existant ZC.
MvV> ZC2 exists and responds to netmail.
Perhaps, but would you agree that there`s more to the ZC job than simply
responding to netmail?
Do you think if I netmailed him, he could explain the 2:2/29 nodelist
entry that he doesn`t fix? Can YOU explain that one to me?
... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.
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