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On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 08:57:46 +0100, Mike Scott wrote:
> Suppose I start a program that pops up a window. Can I put this
> where I want on the screen, presumably by a mouse drag`n`drop
> operation? Can I raise and lower relative to other windows?
Of course.
> If yes, then why not let this be done programmatically and save the
> user a probably repetitive task?
Naturally that can be done, too. But not by asking the application
program; this is now controlled by the window manager.
You already have this sort of thing under many window managers on X11;
the GUi application was never totally in control of where its windows
were placed, since user-definable window manager rules could override
such placement.
The only way to get total control over placement under X11 was to run
without a window manager.
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