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On 05/08/2026 09:30, Ian wrote:
> On 2026-08-04, Chris Green <
cl@isbd.net> wrote:
>> Ian
<${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> wrote:
>>> On 2026-08-04, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
>>>> s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 3 Aug 2026 18:29:55 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> in the true `if i wanted to go there i wouldn`t be starting from here`
>>>>>> tradition if its a 2W why not send its data to somewhere more
>>>>>> interesting and secure?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My Pi zero W never writes to its SD car at all unless i change
>>>>>> configurations,. Everything that writes is either stopped from writing
>>>>>> or writes to ram discs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some SD cards are better than others, I am not interested in finding out
>>>>>> which
>>>>>
>>>>> This is helpful.
>>>>>
>>>> What would be more helpful would be some guidance on how to implement
>>>> it! :-)
>>>>
>>>> E.g. how do you stop systemd`s logging from writing to `hard` disk?
>>>> It would need a **lot** of reconfiguration before it would use a
>>>> reasonable amount of space such as is available on a RAM drive.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe there are versions of the OS that are optimised for minimal disk
>>>> writing, if so I`d like to know about them.
>>>
>>> Wot I do:
>>>
>>> Replace /sbin/init with a shell script that sets up the minimal necessary
>>
>> So you don`t run systemd? While that may be a `good idea` in some ways
>> it does require a **lot** of customisation.
>
> Absolutely not :)
>
> It`s not a general-purpose computer, it`s a device that runs a single program
> (wot I wrote), and it isn`t going to change, ever. Yes, figuring out how to
> get things like wifi and sshd to run took a few iterations, but now that`s a
> solved problem.
>
>
>> ... and current stable Debian is 13, I don`t think I want to go back
>> as far as you are! :-)
>
> This was created many moons ago. It works, it isn`t accessible from any public
> network, and I have no reason to keep chasing the dragon
updating it "just because".
> Ultimately it may be replaced, but that will be a complete replacement with
> something else, not an update.
>
> Something very similar should be possible with later versions, unless they`ve
> finally integreted systemd into the kernel!
>
>
I think this is very clear and relevant info: you don`t need to install
a whole distros cruft just to get an IOT working. Neither does it need
upgrading for `security reasons` if its inside a private network
Plenty of people just use a busybox superstructure...
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