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On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 09:58:45 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in talk.origins, posted by ?? Tiib <
ootiib@hot.ee>:
>On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 15:05:53 UTC+3, JTEM is my hero wrote:
>> If Intelligent Design didn`t exist we couldn`t talk about
>> it. THERE`D BE NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT!
>>
>> Obviously it exists. Obviously we can talk about it.
>>
>> We can discuss the facts.
>>
>> So it`s real and that`s proof.
>>
>You are correct that all the things that we discuss exist as
topic of discussion.
>But no one argues about that. Argument is if these are also actual reality.
>That can not be true about all. All can not conform with reality
for simple reason
>that these contradict with each other.
><
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religions_and_spiritual_traditions>
><
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_topics_characterized_as_pseudoscience>
>
You`re being trolled; no one with more than two neurons
would write the above as a serious claim ("If we can talk
about it that proves it exists"), since the same would also
apply to *anything we could imagine, from a flat Earth to
tiny leprechauns living in our sinuses and making us sneeze,
including literally *every* deity imagined by any group
anywhere at any time.
As you say, these things exist as topics of discussion, but
the phrasing chosen says that is *not* how it was intended,
but as an assertion that imagination creates physical
reality. Multi-person solipsism, perhaps?
>
--
Bob C.
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
`Eureka!` but `That`s funny...`"
- Isaac Asimov
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