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От : Nicholas Boel 1:154/10 10 мар 25 18:28:02
К : Michiel van der Vlist 10 мар 25 03:05:01
Тема : UTF-8 nodelist report
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Hey Michiel!
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 15:26:06 +0100, you wrote:
> Then again here in The Neterlands we are used to dealing with accents
> and diaresis. They are paty of out language.
Very true, and it`s the complete opposite here. Not only my name,
but I`ve seen plenty of words that should have an accent or diaeresis
and is quite often typed without.
NB>> I`m not saying it`s impossible, as I can do ALT-0235 to get the
NB>> desired "├л",
> ALT 137 in DOS.
> There is the alternative of "AltGr". The right Alt key acts as a second
> "shift" key. E.g. "AltGr 5" is the Euro sign.
I would have to do some reconfiguration to get that. Both of my
alt keys do the same thing, as we don`t normally have an AltGr key
here, but I do know about it by word of mouth.
NB>> I also believe I was getting the DAILYUTF from you at some point,
NB>> but possibly when your system went down, and stayed down for some
NB>> time, it was stopped for some reason (I don`t think I ever turned
NB>> it off).
> You want me to turn it on again?
Sure, please. I still have all the same config in place here to receive it.
I believe I was also receiving this echo from you before you went
down as well. It doesn`t look like I paused or disabled anything with
our link (I just linked with someone else at the time), so it must
have stopped at your end when you reconfigured.
> At the moment no one in Z1 participates in de dailyutf,
That`s a bummer. I figured Andrew, at the very least, would have
been interested.. as he was the only one from Z1 that jumped on the
IPV6 bandwagon before I did.
> Yes. When I was RC I also did it. It is not hard, the UTF part is mostly
> a copy of the ASCII setup. Except for the file names and the ALLOW8BIT
> setting.
Got it. I`ll take a look at it when I have some free time this weekend.
> No. Here in Western Europe the default code page for DOS was 850. That
> is still the case in the Windows CLI. In the Linux community Latin-1 is
> popular.
I think most of my Windows applications are now either ISO8859-1 or
UTF-8. But I`m on Windows 11, so it probably started to change some time
ago. As for Linux, ISO-8859-1 may have been popular at some point, but
these days most distributions are installed with UTF-8 as the default
(which is a good thing, IMO).
> ASCII is a subset of nearly all charactersets in use, with the exception
> of the obsolete national 7 bit character sets.
I imagine we probably won`t see much of those national 7 bit sets
any more, unless someone comes online with some very vintage hardware.
;)
> I recall Bj├╢rn mentioning that is is Latin-1. But does it mnatter? The
> point is that it is NOT UTF-8 and therefore an error in he UTF nodelist.
True, and let`s not forget that it`s an error in the original nodelist, as well.
Regards,
Nick
... Sarcasm: because beating people up is illegal.
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