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Boris <
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> Paul <
nospam@needed.invalid> wrote in news:u4kbo3$2t9ch$1@dont-
email.me:
>
>> On 5/23/2023 10:17 PM,
boris@invalid.net wrote:
>>> "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:u4j2ab$2llpr$1@dont- email.me:
>>>
>>>> boris@invalid.net wrote:
>>>>> Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>> news:u4cnao$1gr89$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone successfully install an OEM Windows 11 Home with only a
>>>>>>>> local account lately?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I want to configure this re-install with only a local
>>>>>>>> account.?,? I want to avoid having my user file folder
>>>>>>>> having anything to do with any email name/account I may have to
>>>>>>>> create to get Windows 11 installed, even if I can delete the
>>>>>>>> MSFT account later.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-windows-11-without-
microsof
>>>>>>> t-
>>>>> acco
>>>>>>> unt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I`ve used
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shift + F10 to get command window
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You might need Shift + Fn + F10 on a laptop keyboard because the F
>>> keys
>>>>>> might be shared with numbers or other functuons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> oobe\bypassnro
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... with W11 Pro, new laptop straight from Dell. Machine reboots,
>>> then
>>>>>> you proceed as normal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The link above suggests it will work with the "Home" variant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was finally able to create a local account without creating a
>>> Microsoft
>>>>> account. Explanation follows.
>>>>>
>>>>> About
>>>>> https://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-windows-11-without-
microsoft-
>>>>> account
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Been there. I can get a command prompt, and oobe\bypassnro does
>>>>> indeed reboot, but I`m still sent to sign in with a Microsoft
>>>>> account. I
>>> tried
>>>>> entering what got me in back in September, 2022, "no@thankyou.com",
>>>>> but
>>> a
>>>>> password was still required.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also went here:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/install-windows-11-without-
>>> microsoft-
>>>>> ac
>>>>> count
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing worked, and I didn`t really want to create/use a Rufus USB
>>> drive
>>>>> for Windows 11 that `could` disable the Microsoft account
>>>>> requirement.
>>> I
>>>>> had done Rufus before, to install a Media Creation Tool Windows 10
>>>>> ISO. Worked fine, but guess I was lazy this time around.
>>>>>
>>>>> Winston did suggest (thank you, Winston) that I create a Microsoft
>>>>> account, install Windows, create a Local account, and then delete
>>>>> the Microsoft account. That made a lot of sense, and was the easy
>>> solution,
>>>>> but I wasn`t ready to throw in the towel, yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> I kept rebooting, with and without a network connection, and trying
>>>>> different methods. Using Shift + F10 to get to CMD prompt, and
>>>>> issuing various commands, didn`t work.
>>>>>
>>>>> While still disconnected from the network, I kept trying to use
>>>>> made up account names whenever I got to the Microsoft sign in,
>>>>> Nothing was accepted.
>>>>>
>>>>> I reconnected the network cable, and skipped the device name
>>>>> question
>>> when
>>>>> it came up, Next, the Microsoft account email screen came up, and I
>>> tried
>>>>> different fake account names. I tried `no@thanks.com`, and it
>>>>> worked.
>>> The
>>>>> next screen gave me the `Oops...something went wrong` message. I
>>>>> was
>>> in.
>>>>> I don`t think there`s anything special about `no@thanks.com`, I
>>>>> just
>>> think
>>>>> I caught the Microsoft server on a bad day.
>>>>>
>>>>> It went something like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> Next screen was `Who is going to use this device?` Boris
>>>>>
>>>>> The Dell logo came up, with the spinning circle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next came, "Hi".
>>>>>
>>>>> Then the Windows 11 big blue ribbon appeared on the desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>> A few program icons appeared on the taskbar.
>>>>>
>>>>> I went to Setting>Accounts and found:
>>>>> Boris
>>>>> Local Account
>>>>> Administrator
>>>>>
>>>>> The next step is to reinstall all the progrmas and data that was
>>>>> removed,which I have.
>>>>>
>>>>>
--------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> *Why did I have to do a factory reinstall?*
>>>>>
>>>>> This Dell desktop came with OEM Windows 11 Home installed on a 512
>>>>> GB
>>> SSD.
>>>>> I I was able to set it up with just a local account back in
>>> September,
>>>>> 2022, when purchased.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once the SSD was set up the way I liked it, I installed a 1 TB HDD,
>>>>> and cloned the SSD set up to this HDD. I could boot from either
>>>>> one. I
>>> used
>>>>> the HDD to try out new programs and configurations before applying
>>>>> to
>>> the
>>>>> SSD.
>>>>>
>>>>> A few days ago, I logged on to the HDD, and it wanted to restart to
>>>>> install some Microsoft updates. I agreed. About 10 seconds later,
>>>>> the screen went black, never to resurect itself. The HDD was not
>>>>> whirring, and the screen went into energy saving mode, with it`s
>>>>> power light blinking. I could no longer boot from the HDD.
>>>>>
>>>>> The SSD was also affected. Booting from the SSD would only take me
>>>>> to
>>> the
>>>>> Windows reset/recovery options.
>>>>>
>>>>> I couldn`t use any rescue/recovery devices that I had. When tried,
>>>>> nothing happened. Macrium Windows 11 PE on USB loaded, but that`s
>>>>> all
>>> it
>>>>> could do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Time to use the least damaging Windows recovery method that resets
>>>>> the
>>> OS,
>>>>> but isn`t supposed to affect programs or data (but it did). Turns
>>>>> out this procedure did save my programs and data, but after
>>>>> reinstalling
>>> the
>>>>> OS, and then the programs and data that it saved, it did not delete
>>>>> the very large folder it made to temporarily hold my programs and
>>>>> data.
>>> There
>>>>> was now a `Do_Not_Delete` folder on C:. (The folder name actually
>>>>> did have semi-quotes around it.) All of a sudden, the SSD free
>>>>> space went from 50% to 17%. I couldn`t seem to get permission to
>>>>> delete this
>>> folder,
>>>>> yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Question:
>>>>> Does anyone know if this Windows recovery method is supposed to
>>>>> create
>>> a
>>>>> permanent `Do_Not_Delete` folder on C:?
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried to load Ubuntu (Secure Boot disabled) from a USB optical
>>>>> drive
>>> to
>>>>> delete this folder. Wouldn`t load. I finally was able to take
>>> permission
>>>>> as SYSTEM, by enabling `Replace all child object permission entries
>>> with
>>>>> inheritable permission entries from this object`, and then delete
>>>>> the folder. There was a folder named USMT within the
>>>>> `Do_Not_Delete`
>>> folder.
>>>>> The USMT folder held all the programs and data. The
>>>>> `Do_Not_Delete`
>>>>> folder held less than a GB.
>>>>>
>>>>> I`m still not back to normal with the SDD. I try to launch a
>>>>> number of programs, but am presented with a message something about
>>>>> objects, containers, and some third item, if I remember correctly.,
>>>>> Even when
>>> I`d
>>>>> click on jpgs or txts, I got cryptic messages. At least cryptic to
>>>>> me.
>>> I
>>>>> did take notes, but can`t locate at the moment. I guess it`s time
>>>>> to
>>> bite
>>>>> the bullet...factory reset. I do have backup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Factory reset went fine, disk management looks fine, and as told in
>>>>> the beginning of this post, I was able to create a local account.
>>>>> I`m now setting up this factory reset SDD with all my programs and
>>>>> loading data such as media and documents. Once completed, I`ll
>>>>> clone this SDD to
>>> the
>>>>> HDD, which still won`t boot but can be read from File Explorer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Boris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Glad the long route via the ` Slauson` cutoff worked.
>>>>
>>>> Was this an installation that reset the pc to Dell`s as-shipped
>>>> factory condition?
>>>> - If so, open Disk Management.
>>>> How many recovery partitions are present?
>>>> 1, 2, or more ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, this was a reset to the Dell as-shipped factory condition.
>>>
>>> I`m attaching (link) a screenshot of the original Disk Management
>>> display that shows the partitions of the Dell OEM install.
>>>
>>> Also attached is a screenshot of the Disk Management display
>>> immediately after the Dell factory reinstall.
>>>
>>> https://postimg.cc/gallery/6tz1h0W/1bbda616
>>>
>>> The only difference I see is in partition 4, which has increased from
>>> the original 990 MB to 1.34 GB.
>>>
>>
>> It seems to have borrowed about 360MB of space from the end of C: ,
>> to make the partition next to it larger. Maybe it added drivers
>> to the WinRE file in there ?
>>
>> I doubt there is that much to see.
>>
>> [Picture]
>>
>>
https://i.postimg.cc/5tPmPmD1/testdisk-cgsecurity-org.gif
>>
>> The program is a bit hard to use. You do a deeper search
>> and hit return before it finished, then cursor down and press P
>> to list files. And that`s the picture that would result.
>
> Yes, it is difficult to use, but here`s my results of a deep search of
> Disk1, Partition 4, the partition in question. It means nothing when
I
> can`t compare to the `original` Partition 4. Well, it may still mean
> nothing.
>
> Thanks.
>
>>
>> It can be downloaded here, but the developer had to put that
>> awful advertising on the site, to pay for the hosting. If
>> you get any Google popups, hit the "reload" icon on the browser
>> and hope for the best.
>>
>>
https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
>>
>> Inside the WinRE.wim, is a file system, and 7ZIP can open it.
>> Testdisk can copy a file out of an unmountable volume, and
>> then you can set to work with your other tools.
>>
>> Paul
>
>
https://postimg.cc/kDxK2Bnz
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