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On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 4:33:20 PM UTC-8,
newgirlf...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > A star like the Sun will end its days, as we have seen, as a
> > red giant and then a white
> >
> > dwarf. A collapsing star twice as massive as the Sun will become a
> > supernova and then a neutron
> >
> > star. But a more massive star, left, after its supernova phase, with,
> > say, five times the Sun`s mass,
> >
> > has an even more remarkable fate reserved for it - its gravity will
> > turn it into a black hole.
> >
> > Suppose we had a magic gravity machine - a device with which we could
> > control the Earth`s
> >
> > gravity, perhaps by turning a dial. Initially the dial is set at 1 g*
> > and everything behaves as we
> >
> > have grown up to expect. The animals and plants on Earth and the
> > structures of our buildings are
> >
> > all evolved or designed for 1 g. If the gravity were much less, there
> > might be tall, spindly shapes
> >
> > that would not be tumbled or crushed by their own weight. If the
> > gravity were much more, plants
> >
> > and animals and architecture would have to be short and squat and
> > sturdy in order not to collapse.
> >
> > But even in a fairly strong gravity field, light would travel in a
> > straight line, as it does, of course,
> >
> > in everyday life.
> >
> >
> >
> > * 1 g is the acceleration experienced by falling objects on
> > the Earth, almost 10 meters per second every
> >
> > second. A falling rock will reach a speed of 10 meters per second
> > after one second of fall, 20 meters per second after
> >
> > two seconds, and so on until it strikes the ground or is slowed by
> > friction with the air. On a world where the
> >
> > gravitational acceleration was much greater, falling bodies would
> > increase their speed by correspondingly greater
> >
> > amounts. On a world with 10 g acceleration, a rock would travel 10 x
> > 10 m/sec or almost 100 m/sec after the first
> >
> > second, 200 m/sec after the next second, and so on. A slight stumble
> > could be fatal. The acceleration due to gravity
> >
> > should always be written with a lowercase g, to distinguish it from
> > the Newtonian gravitational constant, G, which is
> >
> > a measure of the strength of gravity everywhere in the universe, not
> > merely on whatever world or sun we are
> >
> > discussing. (The Newtonian relationship of the two quantities is F =
> > mg = GMm/r2 2
> >
> > ;
> > g = GM/r , where F is the
> >
> > gravitational force, M is the mass of the planet or star, m is the
> > mass of the falling object, and r is the distance from
> >
> > the falling object to the center of the planet or star.)
> >
> >
> >
> > Consider a possibly typical group of Earth beings, Alice and
> > her friends from Alice in
> >
> > Wonderland at the Mad Hatter`s tea party. As we lower the gravity,
> > things weigh less. Near 0 g
> >
> > the slightest motion sends our friends floating and tumbling up in the
> > air. Spilled tea - or any
> >
> > other liquid - forms throbbing spherical globs in the air: the surface
> > tension of the liquid
> >
> > overwhelms gravity. Balls of tea are everywhere. If now we dial 1 g
> > again, we make a rain of tea.
> >
> > When we increase the gravity a little - from 1 g to, say, 3 or 4 g`s -
> > everyone becomes
> >
> > immobilized: even moving a paw requires enormous effort. As a kindness
> > we remove our friends
> >
> > from the domain of the gravity machine before we dial higher gravities
> > still. The beam from a
> >
> > lantern travels in a perfectly straight line (as nearly as we can see)
> > at a few g`s, as it does at 0 g.
> >
> > At 1000 g`s, the beam is still straight, but trees have become
> > squashed and flattened; at 100,000
> >
> > g`s, rocks are crushed by their own weight. Eventually, nothing at all
> > survives except, through a
> >
> > special dispensation, the Cheshire cat. When the gravity approaches a
> > billion g`s, something still
> >
> > more strange happens. The beam of light, which has until now been
> > heading straight up into the
> >
> > sky, is beginning to bend. Under extremely strong gravitational
> > accelerations, even light is
> >
> > affected. If we increase the gravity still more, the light is pulled
> > back to the ground near us. Now
> >
> > the cosmic Cheshire cat has vanished; only its gravitational grin
> > remains.
> >
> > When the gravity is sufficiently high, nothing, not even
> > light, can get out. Such a place is
> >
> > called a black hole. Enigmatically indifferent to its surroundings, it
> > is a kind of cosmic Cheshire
> >
> > cat. When the density and gravity become sufficiently high, the black
> > hole winks out and
> >
> > disappears from our universe. That is why it is called black: no light
> > can escape from it. On the
> >
> > inside, because the light is trapped down there, things may be
> > attractively well-lit. Even if a black
> >
> > hole is invisible from the outside, its gravitational presence can be
> > palpable. If, on an interstellar
> >
> > voyage, you are not paying attention, you can find yourself drawn into
> > it irrevocably, your body
> >
> > stretched unpleasantly into a long, thin thread. But the matter
> > accreting into a disk surrounding
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 9:50:25 PM UTC-8,
newgirlf...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 10:09:51 PM UTC-7,
satan...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 7:08:06 PM UTC-7,
satan...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:22:05 PM UTC-7,
newgirlf...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 1:45:38 PM UTC-7,
satan...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > ggg
> > > > > > On Friday, June 29, 2012 at 2:27:20 PM UTC-7, Denny wrote:
> > > > > > > ----------------------- Page 136-----------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A star like the Sun will end its days, as we have seen, as a
> > > > > > > red giant and then a white
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > dwarf. A collapsing star twice as massive as the
Sun will become a
> > > > > > > supernova and then a neutron
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > star. But a more massive star, left, after its
supernova phase, with,
> > > > > > > say, five times the Sun`s mass,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > has an even more remarkable fate reserved for it
- its gravity will
> > > > > > > turn it into a black hole.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Suppose we had a magic gravity machine - a
device with which we could
> > > > > > > control the Earth`s
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > gravity, perhaps by turning a dial. Initially the
dial is set at 1 g*
> > > > > > > and everything behaves as we
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > have grown up to expect. The animals and plants on Earth and the
> > > > > > > structures of our buildings are
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > all evolved or designed for 1 g. If the gravity
were much less, there
> > > > > > > might be tall, spindly shapes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > that would not be tumbled or crushed by their own weight. If the
> > > > > > > gravity were much more, plants
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and animals and architecture would have to be short and squat and
> > > > > > > sturdy in order not to collapse.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But even in a fairly strong gravity field, light
would travel in a
> > > > > > > straight line, as it does, of course,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > in everyday life.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * 1 g is the acceleration experienced by falling objects on
> > > > > > > the Earth, almost 10 meters per second every
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > second. A falling rock will reach a speed of 10 meters per second
> > > > > > > after one second of fall, 20 meters per second after
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > two seconds, and so on until it strikes the
ground or is slowed by
> > > > > > > friction with the air. On a world where the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > gravitational acceleration was much greater, falling bodies would
> > > > > > > increase their speed by correspondingly greater
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > amounts. On a world with 10 g acceleration, a
rock would travel 10 x
> > > > > > > 10 m/sec or almost 100 m/sec after the first
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > second, 200 m/sec after the next second, and so
on. A slight stumble
> > > > > > > could be fatal. The acceleration due to gravity
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > should always be written with a lowercase g, to
distinguish it from
> > > > > > > the Newtonian gravitational constant, G, which is
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a measure of the strength of gravity everywhere
in the universe, not
> > > > > > > merely on whatever world or sun we are
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > discussing. (The Newtonian relationship of the two
quantities is F =
> > > > > > > mg = GMm/r2 2
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ;
> > > > > > > g = GM/r , where F is the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > gravitational force, M is the mass of the planet
or star, m is the
> > > > > > > mass of the falling object, and r is the distance from
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the falling object to the center of the planet or star.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Consider a possibly typical group of Earth beings, Alice and
> > > > > > > her friends from Alice in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wonderland at the Mad Hatter`s tea party. As we
lower the gravity,
> > > > > > > things weigh less. Near 0 g
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the slightest motion sends our friends floating
and tumbling up in the
> > > > > > > air. Spilled tea - or any
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > other liquid - forms throbbing spherical globs in
the air: the surface
> > > > > > > tension of the liquid
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > overwhelms gravity. Balls of tea are everywhere.
If now we dial 1 g
> > > > > > > again, we make a rain of tea.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When we increase the gravity a little - from 1
g to, say, 3 or 4 g`s -
> > > > > > > everyone becomes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > immobilized: even moving a paw requires enormous
effort. As a kindness
> > > > > > > we remove our friends
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > from the domain of the gravity machine before we
dial higher gravities
> > > > > > > still. The beam from a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > lantern travels in a perfectly straight line (as
nearly as we can see)
> > > > > > > at a few g`s, as it does at 0 g.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At 1000 g`s, the beam is still straight, but trees have become
> > > > > > > squashed and flattened; at 100,000
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > g`s, rocks are crushed by their own weight.
Eventually, nothing at all
> > > > > > > survives except, through a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > special dispensation, the Cheshire cat. When the
gravity approaches a
> > > > > > > billion g`s, something still
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > more strange happens. The beam of light, which has until now been
> > > > > > > heading straight up into the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > sky, is beginning to bend. Under extremely strong gravitational
> > > > > > > accelerations, even light is
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > affected. If we increase the gravity still more,
the light is pulled
> > > > > > > back to the ground near us. Now
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the cosmic Cheshire cat has vanished; only its gravitational grin
> > > > > > > remains.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When the gravity is sufficiently high, nothing, not even
> > > > > > > light, can get out. Such a place is
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > called a black hole. Enigmatically indifferent to
its surroundings, it
> > > > > > > is a kind of cosmic Cheshire
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > cat. When the density and gravity become
sufficiently high, the black
> > > > > > > hole winks out and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > disappears from our universe. That is why it is
called black: no light
> > > > > > > can escape from it. On the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > inside, because the light is trapped down there, things may be
> > > > > > > attractively well-lit. Even if a black
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > hole is invisible from the outside, its
gravitational presence can be
> > > > > > > palpable. If, on an interstellar
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > voyage, you are not paying attention, you can
find yourself drawn into
> > > > > > > it irrevocably, your body
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > stretched unpleasantly into a long, thin thread. But the matter
> > > > > > > accreting into a disk surrounding
> > > > > good
> > > > Denny`s profile photo
> > > > Denny
> > > > Jun 29, 2012, 2:27:20 PM
> > > > to
> > > > ----------------------- Page 136-----------------------
> > > >
> > > > A star like the Sun will end its days, as we have seen, as a
> > > > red giant and then a white
> > > >
> > > > dwarf. A collapsing star twice as massive as the Sun will become a
> > > > supernova and then a neutron
> > > >
> > > > star. But a more massive star, left, after its supernova phase, with,
> > > > say, five times the Sun`s mass,
> > > >
> > > > has an even more remarkable fate reserved for it - its gravity will
> > > > turn it into a black hole.
> > > >
> > > > Suppose we had a magic gravity machine - a device with which we could
> > > > control the Earth`s
> > > >
> > > > gravity, perhaps by turning a dial. Initially the dial is set at 1 g*
> > > > and everything behaves as we
> > > >
> > > > have grown up to expect. The animals and plants on Earth and the
> > > > structures of our buildings are
> > > >
> > > > all evolved or designed for 1 g. If the gravity were much less, there
> > > > might be tall, spindly shapes
> > > >
> > > > that would not be tumbled or crushed by their own weight. If the
> > > > gravity were much more, plants
> > > >
> > > > and animals and architecture would have to be short and squat and
> > > > sturdy in order not to collapse.
> > > >
> > > > But even in a fairly strong gravity field, light would travel in a
> > > > straight line, as it does, of course,
> > > >
> > > > in everyday life.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > * 1 g is the acceleration experienced by falling objects on
> > > > the Earth, almost 10 meters per second every
> > > >
> > > > second. A falling rock will reach a speed of 10 meters per second
> > > > after one second of fall, 20 meters per second after
> > > >
> > > > two seconds, and so on until it strikes the ground or is slowed by
> > > > friction with the air. On a world where the
> > > >
> > > > gravitational acceleration was much greater, falling bodies would
> > > > increase their speed by correspondingly greater
> > > >
> > > > amounts. On a world with 10 g acceleration, a rock would travel 10 x
> > > > 10 m/sec or almost 100 m/sec after the first
> > > >
> > > > second, 200 m/sec after the next second, and so on. A slight stumble
> > > > could be fatal. The acceleration due to gravity
> > > >
> > > > should always be written with a lowercase g, to distinguish it from
> > > > the Newtonian gravitational constant, G, which is
> > > >
> > > > a measure of the strength of gravity everywhere in the universe, not
> > > > merely on whatever world or sun we are
> > > >
> > > > discussing. (The Newtonian relationship of the two quantities is F =
> > > > mg = GMm/r2 2
> > > >
> > > > ;
> > > > g = GM/r , where F is the
> > > >
> > > > gravitational force, M is the mass of the planet or star, m is the
> > > > mass of the falling object, and r is the distance from
> > > >
> > > > the falling object to the center of the planet or star.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Consider a possibly typical group of Earth beings, Alice and
> > > > her friends from Alice in
> > > >
> > > > Wonderland at the Mad Hatter`s tea party. As we lower the gravity,
> > > > things weigh less. Near 0 g
> > > >
> > > > the slightest motion sends our friends floating and tumbling up in the
> > > > air. Spilled tea - or any
> > > >
> > > > other liquid - forms throbbing spherical globs in the air: the surface
> > > > tension of the liquid
> > > >
> > > > overwhelms gravity. Balls of tea are everywhere. If now we dial 1 g
> > > > again, we make a rain of tea.
> > > >
> > > > When we increase the gravity a little - from 1 g to, say, 3 or 4 g`s -
> > > > everyone becomes
> > > >
> > > > immobilized: even moving a paw requires enormous effort. As a kindness
> > > > we remove our friends
> > > >
> > > > from the domain of the gravity machine before we dial higher gravities
> > > > still. The beam from a
> > > >
> > > > lantern travels in a perfectly straight line (as nearly as we can see)
> > > > at a few g`s, as it does at 0 g.
> > > >
> > > > At 1000 g`s, the beam is still straight, but trees have become
> > > > squashed and flattened; at 100,000
> > > >
> > > > g`s, rocks are crushed by their own weight. Eventually, nothing at all
> > > > survives except, through a
> > > >
> > > > special dispensation, the Cheshire cat. When the gravity approaches a
> > > > billion g`s, something still
> > > >
> > > > more strange happens. The beam of light, which has until now been
> > > > heading straight up into the
> > > >
> > > > sky, is beginning to bend. Under extremely strong gravitational
> > > > accelerations, even light is
> > > >
> > > > affected. If we increase the gravity still more, the light is pulled
> > > > back to the ground near us. Now
> > > >
> > > > the cosmic Cheshire cat has vanished; only its gravitational grin
> > > > remains.
> > > >
> > > > When the gravity is sufficiently high, nothing, not even
> > > > light, can get out. Such a place is
> > > >
> > > > called a black hole. Enigmatically indifferent to its surroundings, it
> > > > is a kind of cosmic Cheshire
> > > >
> > > > cat. When the density and gravity become sufficiently high, the black
> > > > hole winks out and
> > > >
> > > > disappears from our universe. That is why it is called black: no light
> > > > can escape from it. On the
> > > >
> > > > inside, because the light is trapped down there, things may be
> > > > attractively well-lit. Even if a black
> > > >
> > > > hole is invisible from the outside, its gravitational presence can be
> > > > palpable. If, on an interstellar
> > > >
> > > > voyage, you are not paying attention, you can find yourself drawn into
> > > > it irrevocably, your body
> > > >
> > > > stretched unpleasantly into a long, thin thread. But the matter
> > > > accreting into a disk surrounding
> > >
satan...@gmail.com`s profile photo
> > >
satan...@gmail.com
> > > Mar 1, 2020, 5:10:56 PM
> > > to
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > good
> > > ffff
> > > sOn Friday, June 29, 2012 at 2:27:20 PM UTC-7, Denny wrote:
> > > > ----------------------- Page 136-----------------------
> > > >
> > > > A star like the Sun will end its days, as we have seen, as a
> > > > red giant and then a white
> > > >
> > > > dwarf. A collapsing star twice as massive as the Sun will become a
> > > > supernova and then a neutron
> > > >
> > > > star. But a more massive star, left, after its supernova phase, with,
> > > > say, five times the Sun`s mass,
> > > >
> > > > has an even more remarkable fate reserved for it - its gravity will
> > > > turn it into a black hole.
> > > >
> > > > Suppose we had a magic gravity machine - a device with which we could
> > > > control the Earth`s
> > > >
> > > > gravity, perhaps by turning a dial. Initially the dial is set at 1 g*
> > > > and everything behaves as we
> > > >
> > > > have grown up to expect. The animals and plants on Earth and the
> > > > structures of our buildings are
> > > >
> > > > all evolved or designed for 1 g. If the gravity were much less, there
> > > > might be tall, spindly shapes
> > > >
> > > > that would not be tumbled or crushed by their own weight. If the
> > > > gravity were much more, plants
> > > >
> > > > and animals and architecture would have to be short and squat and
> > > > sturdy in order not to collapse.
> > > >
> > > > But even in a fairly strong gravity field, light would travel in a
> > > > straight line, as it does, of course,
> > > >
> > > > in everyday life.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > * 1 g is the acceleration experienced by falling objects on
> > > > the Earth, almost 10 meters per second every
> > > >
> > > > second. A falling rock will reach a speed of 10 meters per second
> > > > after one second of fall, 20 meters per second after
> > > >
> > > > two seconds, and so on until it strikes the ground or is slowed by
> > > > friction with the air. On a world where the
> > > >
> > > > gravitational acceleration was much greater, falling bodies would
> > > > increase their speed by correspondingly greater
> > > >
> > > > amounts. On a world with 10 g acceleration, a rock would travel 10 x
> > > > 10 m/sec or almost 100 m/sec after the first
> > > >
> > > > second, 200 m/sec after the next second, and so on. A slight stumble
> > > > could be fatal. The acceleration due to gravity
> > > >
> > > > should always be written with a lowercase g, to distinguish it from
> > > > the Newtonian gravitational constant, G, which is
> > > >
> > > > a measure of the strength of gravity everywhere in the universe, not
> > > > merely on whatever world or sun we are
> > > >
> > > > discussing. (The Newtonian relationship of the two quantities is F =
> > > > mg = GMm/r2 2
> > > >
> > > > ;
> > > > g = GM/r , where F is the
> > > >
> > > > gravitational force, M is the mass of the planet or star, m is the
> > > > mass of the falling object, and r is the distance from
> > > >
> > > > the falling object to the center of the planet or star.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Consider a possibly typical group of Earth beings, Alice and
> > > > her friends from Alice in
> > > >
> > > > Wonderland at the Mad Hatter`s tea party. As we lower the gravity,
> > > > things weigh less. Near 0 g
> > > >
> > > > the slightest motion sends our friends floating and tumbling up in the
> > > > air. Spilled tea - or any
> > > >
> > > > other liquid - forms throbbing spherical globs in the air: the surface
> > > > tension of the liquid
> > > >
> > > > overwhelms gravity. Balls of tea are everywhere. If now we dial 1 g
> > > > again, we make a rain of tea.
> > > >
> > > > When we increase the gravity a little - from 1 g to, say, 3 or 4 g`s -
> > > > everyone becomes
> > > >
> > > > immobilized: even moving a paw requires enormous effort. As a kindness
> > > > we remove our friends
> > > >
> > > > from the domain of the gravity machine before we dial higher gravities
> > > > still. The beam from a
> > > >
> > > > lantern travels in a perfectly straight line (as nearly as we can see)
> > > > at a few g`s, as it does at 0 g.
> > > >
> > > > At 1000 g`s, the beam is still straight, but trees have become
> > > > squashed and flattened; at 100,000
> > > >
> > > > g`s, rocks are crushed by their own weight. Eventually, nothing at all
> > > > survives except, through a
> > > >
> > > > special dispensation, the Cheshire cat. When the gravity approaches a
> > > > billion g`s, something still
> > > >
> > > > more strange happens. The beam of light, which has until now been
> > > > heading straight up into the
> > > >
> > > > sky, is beginning to bend. Under extremely strong gravitational
> > > > accelerations, even light is
> > > >
> > > > affected. If we increase the gravity still more, the light is pulled
> > > > back to the ground near us. Now
> > > >
> > > > the cosmic Cheshire cat has vanished; only its gravitational grin
> > > > remains.
> > > >
> > > > When the gravity is sufficiently high, nothing, not even
> > > > light, can get out. Such a place is
> > > >
> > > > called a black hole. Enigmatically indifferent to its surroundings, it
> > > > is a kind of cosmic Cheshire
> > > >
> > > > cat. When the density and gravity become sufficiently high, the black
> > > > hole winks out and
> > > >
> > > > disappears from our universe. That is why it is called black: no light
> > > > can escape from it. On the
> > > >
> > > > inside, because the light is trapped down there, things may be
> > > > attractively well-lit. Even if a black
> > > >
> > > > hole is invisible from the outside, its gravitational presence can be
> > > > palpable. If, on an interstellar
> > > >
> > > > voyage, you are not paying attention, you can find yourself drawn into
> > > > it irrevocably, your body
> > > >
> > > > stretched unpleasantly into a long, thin thread. But the matter
> > > > accreting into a disk surrounding
> > good
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