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On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:02:03 AM UTC-4, Ruud Harmsen wrote:
> Sat, 16 Sep 2023 06:24:10 -0700 (PDT): "Peter T. Daniels"
> <
petert...@gmail.com> scribeva:
> >On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 8:27:55?AM UTC-4, Ruud Harmsen wrote:
> >> Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:46:48 +0200: wugi <
wu...@brol.invalid> scribeva:
> >> >Town: Mechelen (archbishopric with St-Rombouts; first continental
> >> >railway`s workshops 1835)
> >> >People: de Mechelaar (him), de Mechelse (her), (nickname `maneblussers`:
> >> >moon extinguishers ~ night birds peeing against the moon:)
> >> >Adjective: Mechels(e)
> >> >mE`x@l@[n], mE`x@la:r, mE`x@ls(@)
> >> That`s with the stress symbol after the vowel, which is one
> >> convention. Another more usual convention is to put it before the
> >> stressed syllable.
> >> (Anecdote: I once dared ask Peter T. Daniels how he meant a stress
> >> symbol he used, and he got out of his mind about my question. How
> >> could I possibly ask such a thing? OF COURSE it was before the
> >> stressed vowel. But now here we see an example that the other
> >> convention also exists.)
> >IPA, which is what you use, puts the stress mark before the stressed
> >syllable.
> >US dictionaries (long before IPA) put the stress mark after the stressed
> >syllable.
>
> Hence my then confusion.
You used US dictionaries?
> >Who knows where wugi learned transcription.
> >> <
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress (linguistics)>
> >> "Most commonly, the stress mark is placed before the beginning of the
> >> stressed syllable [...]"
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