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On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 7:49:29 PM UTC-7, John Harshman wrote:
> On 8/19/23 7:28 PM, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
> > On 20.8.2023. 3:06, John Harshman wrote:
> >> On 8/19/23 5:22 PM, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
> >>> On 20.8.2023. 1:56, John Harshman wrote:
> >>>> On 8/19/23 2:17 PM, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
> >>>>> 20 years ago situation was like this, Genetic Mutation
> >>>>> Theory was all over the place.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have no idea what you`re talking about. I suspect you don`t either.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Then I noticed that authors of both, the Big Bang Theory and the
> >>>>> Genetic Mutation Theory are Catholic priests, and I started to
> >>>>> write about this, I wrote about it here a few times.
> >>>>
> >>>> You`re right about the Big Bang, but Mendel had zero to do with
> >>>> mutations.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, that`s why his theory is called Genetic Mutation
> >>> Theory.
> >>
> >> Nobody calls it that.
> >
> > Ok, I figured this out. Definitely 20 years ago it is known
> > that Genetic Mutation Theory was Mendel`s (at least, this is how this
> > came to me), but maybe somebody misunderstood it, because it is based on
> > Mendel`s work.
> Conceivably there is some kind of translation problem here. But no, you
> are wrong. Mendel`s theory has nothing to do with mutation. You admit at
> times that you`re ignorant of evolutionary biology and genetics. In
> this, if in nothing else, you are correct.
Ayala:
"The rediscovery in 1900 of Mendel`s theory of heredity by the
Dutch botanist and geneticist Hugo de Vries and others led to an emphasis
on the role of heredity in evolution. De Vries proposed a new theory
of evolution known as mutationism, which essentially did away with
natural selection as a major evolutionary process."
"The controversy between mutationists (also referred to at the time
as Mendelians) and biometricians approached a resolution in the 1920s
and 1930s through the theoretical work of geneticists."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/mutati
onism
Mario appears more accurate about history than you.
> >>>>> Now:
> >>>>> - BEFORE that I newer heard *anybody* even mention this
> >>>>> - DURING the time I was writing about it I didn`t hear anybody even
> >>>>> mention this
> >>>>> - AFTER that time, even to this days, I never heard *anybody* even
> >>>>> mention this
> >>>>> Ok. Before I started to write about it you can clearly
> >>>>> find "Genetic Mutation Theory" in Wikipedia. Of course, right in
> >>>>> the preamble of the article you will clearly see who is the author,
> >>>>> written in bold letters, so that everybody can see it clearly,
> >>>>> right at the first sight. This also goes for the Big Bang Theory,
> >>>>> you will clearly see in the preamble who is the author of it, in
> >>>>> bold letters.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don`t believe you. I don`t believe that "Genetic Mutation Theory"
> >>>> was ever a Wikipedia article. I certainly don`t know what such an
> >>>> article would contain.
> >>>
> >>> In the previous post I provided a citation, with a whole
> >>> bunch of references.
> >>>
> >>>>> These days you even cannot find the Genetic Mutation
> >>>>> Theory in Wikipedia. You can find Big Bang Theory in Wikipedia, but
> >>>>> if you manage to find in this article who is the actually author of
> >>>>> it within 20 minutes, I`ll buy you a beer.
> >>>>
> >>>> First sentence of the second paragraph of the Big Bang Theory
> >>>> article: "Crucially, these models are compatible with the
> >>>> Hubble-Lema?tre law--the observation that the farther away a galaxy
> >>>> is, the faster it is moving away from Earth." Under "Development":
> >>>> "Independently deriving Friedmann`s equations in 1927, Georges
> >>>> Lema?tre, a Belgian physicist and Roman Catholic priest, proposed
> >>>> that the recession of the nebulae was due to the expansion of the
> >>>> universe."
> >>>>
> >>>> Not sure how you will get my beer to me.
> >>>
> >>> Oh really? No, it is Lemaitre`s theory, it isn`t by somebody
> >>> else, or a bunch of people but based on Hubble-Lemaitre something,
> >>> how they are twisting it today, it is full blown solely Lemaitre`s
> >>> theory. And it isn`t Hubble-Lemaitre`s law, now it is called Hubble`s
> >>> law, but actually it was published by Lemaitre, without Hubble. Now
> >>> they are twisting this all around these days, trying to somehow
> >>> disconnect this theory from Lemaitre, and desperately connect it to
> >>> something else. Oh yes, I am insane, lol.
> >>
> >> I`m beginning to think you are in fact insane. But I guess I won`t get
> >> my beer. That`s always a problem when the judge of the challenge is
> >> the one who presented it.
> >>
> >>>>> Now, science behaves like it never had anything to do with
> >>>>> Mendel and his theory, and Harshman even calls me insane.
> >>>>
> >>>> No, science has much to do with Mendel`s theory, but you don`t
> >>>> understand what Mendel`s theory is.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Of course, Hrshman behaves also like science never had anything to
> >>>>> do with the Genetic Mutation Theory,
> >>>>
> >>>> No idea what the Genetic Mutation Theory is, but it can`t have
> >>>> anything to do with Mendel.
> >>>>
> >>>>> he behaves like he never heard of it,
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes. That`s because I never heard of it, or at least I don`t know
> >>>> what you mean by it.
> >>>>
> >>>>> and whoever claims that science had something to do with it, he
> >>>>> calls him insane.
> >>>>> This post talks about human intelligence, talks about
> >>>>> learning from books, and talks about science.
> >>>>
> >>>> This post seems to talk about none of those things.
> >>>
> >>
> >
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